Thursday, April 19, 2012

Pertussis/Whooping Cough

 ****  DISCLAIMER:::   This is OUR blog and our thoughts. I have not commented on ONE of anyone's posts on Facebook about vaccines in argument or with any kind of opposition. I ask that you DO THE SAME, please, please.  I don't want to start an argument. I don't want to change your mind. I just want to come to you, as a friend and a mother with a different view/experience and share -- out of love and with love. Just like none of you are purposely trying to offend or hurt anyone with your comments and posts over the last few days, I am not trying to either. I have seen people say that mother's who don't vaccinate are bad mothers.... it hurts me. BUT I know that you say this because of your belief over the matter and because you might feel strongly over vaccines. I hope that not ONE of you thinks I would ever, ever think of you as bad parents if you do vaccinate. I know you are doing what you have decided or been told, is best. My only "goal" with this blog post is to share why we don't vaccinate, and offer another 'view' about the pertussis vaccine for those that are interested in it and would like to read more about why people choose to not get it. You can think the stuff I write it stupid or eye-opening, it doesn't matter -- like I said, this isn't to change your mind -- it is to share with you and that is it. So PLEASE -- no mean comments or posting other things -- just read it and take what you will out of it and let it go. If you want to talk more to me about it, go ahead and privately message me :)   *******

Over the last few days, there has been a story circulating through Facebook about the baby who died from Pertussis. There are many things about this story that really bothered me and saddened me -- there is so much in it that can be argued  --- but there is no way I am going to pick apart that story, because, I wasn't there and I don't know for sure what happened. It has been very hard to see so many people get so upset over it, whether it is doctors/medical professionals that are posting it saying it is all propoganda and that the baby actually died from a Hepatitis B reaction, or it is them saying that:  "this is why people should vaccinate and you are stupid if you don't."  Usually I keep to myself and I don't say anything, especially over FB or on a blog, where people can't discern my tone in the way I type or etc, etc. However, this time, I really felt compelled to just put up a quick post on my views and some things I've found interesting about this vaccine.  Most of you know that we don't vaccinate. We did, but we don't anymore. I don't have the time right now to go through and explain every reason why, but in general, I will tell you that:

We had Lily vaccinated and saw horrible reactions after them, so we stopped when she was 2 1/2 and never had our other babies vaccinated once. Even after being vaccinated for whooping cough, in August of 2010, all of our children and my husband caught it. It started as a regular cough, and after about 2 weeks, we could hear the 'whoop' in their coughs. For Chris, it was much more like Bronchitis -- he would cough so hard we would throw up.  The coughs had a lot of mucous that came up, but other than that -- everyone resumed their normal activity. Cj had one night of a higher fever and a lot of sleep, and after that his cough was much better. Only once did he cough hard enough that he started to look and sound out of breath. We did some research and purchased some immunity boosting herbs, along with some that reduced mucous in your lungs, and some that would stop the cough from being so strong they would lose oxygen. We made them tea and gave it to them often.  After two weeks, they no longer coughed during the day, only at night -- and then after a month we hardly heard a cough from them. For about another month, a few times out of the week, one of them would cough, but the 'whoop' was gone and only a tiny bit of mucous remained. MANY of you visited us and saw our kids during August-October/Nov of this last fall.  Not ONE person ever heard them cough and said anything about it.  Whooping cough entered our kids, not one person even knew, they healed very well and fast, and now they are immune to it for 30 years - the rest of their life. ACTUALLY immune.  Chris had gotten it, even though as a child and adolescent he was fully vaccinated.  Lily got it even though she was fully vaccinated. I did not get whooping cough -- because I had it as child 'naturally' and I am immune.  Do vaccines work?  I can tell you that I would much rather have my kids have whooping cough, then to hold them for 12 hours while they scream at the top of their lungs -- nonstop.   BUT -- this is OUR experience and our decision with things. I don't want to scare you into making a choice. I don't want to tell you more about Lily's reactions just to scare you, even though I would gladly talk to anyone about it privately. 

I also wanted to share a few quotes and articles about the pertuss vaccine with you guys, for your own private and personal reading and thoughts. I hope that they are useful to you, in some way. They really made me think and consider things. 


Here is some copy and paste from the Vaccine insert of the DTAP vaccine. This is from the manufactures of the vaccine itself. They say in their pamphlets: 
(read one HERE.

**Encephalopathy (e.g., coma, decreased level of consciousness, prolonged seizures), Progressive neurologic disorder, including infantile spasms, uncontrolled epilepsy, or progressive encephalopathy is a contraindication to administration of any pertussis-containing vaccine, and Guillain-Barré syndrome.

**AND it says: Pregnancy Category C

Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with INFANRIX.

It is also NOT known whether INFANRIX can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity. 

Safety and effectiveness of INFANRIX in infants younger than 6 weeks of age and children 7 to 16 years of age have not been established. INFANRIX is not approved for use in these age groups. 

INFANRIX has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential, or for impairment of fertility.

”Adverse events reported during post-approval use of DTaP vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting”



Vaccinated people re-exposed to whooping cough, respond to it, in the way in which their immune system is pre-programmed, resulting in those people not clearing the pertussis bacteria fast (as happens after natural immunity), and they become ready carriers and spreaders of whooping cough”
“The aberrant immunity created by the vaccine, creates a situation whereby the vaccinated are now the most effective spreaders of the disease. The ones whose first attack was natural, are not likely to spread the disease, since their bronchials clear any reinfection bacteria very quickly. Again, this is all in medical literature”

A CDC study suggests that the resurgence of WHOOPING COUGH is due to the vaccine causing an increased and more virulent toxin. The CDC acknowledges that whooping cough is recurring in highly vaccinated populations. They also concluded that there is a high secondary transmission rate from vaccinated individuals.

The CDC ended the study with: “Vaccinated adolescents and adults may serve as reservoirs for silent infection and become potential transmitters to unprotected infants. Therefore, even young, recently vaccinated children may serve as reservoirs and potential transmitters of infection.”

A Special Report done by the International Medical Council on Vaccination:
“If you think that a vaccinated person cannot get whooping cough, in the most severe manner, think again. Most babies over the age of 6 months who get whooping cough are fully and “appropriately” vaccinated. Pertussis is admittedly, even by the vaccine enthusiasts, primarily spread by vaccinated children, adolescents and adults”

Let’s look at some of the most well-known “outbreaks” over the last 20 years (keep in mind the pertussis vaccine rate has been at an all time high of 98% during these outbreaks.) That means 98% of the population is vaccinated. You know the whole “herd immunity” argument. Yeah, well the herd is immune. So why aren’t they being protected?
1986: Kansas Outbreak: 90% of cases were vaccinated
1993: Ohio Outbreak: 82% of cases were vaccinated
1996: Vermont Outbreak: 74% of cases were vaccinated
2003: Cyprus Outbreak: 79% of cases were vaccinated.
2010: California Outbreak: 92% of cases were vaccinated.
Everyone who contracted the disease had received 3 to 5 doses of the vaccine.

1994 article in the New England Journal of Medicine, showed that 80% of children under 5 who got pertussis had been fully vaccinated. The researchers concluded that the “vaccine offered insufficient protection from the disease”

"The decline in infectious diseases in developed countries had nothing to do with vaccinations, but with the decline in poverty and hunger." --Dr. Gerhard Buchwald, MD

"Crib death" was so infrequent in the pre-vaccination era that it was not even mentioned in the statistics, but it started to climb in the 1950s with the spread of mass vaccination against diseases of childhood. --Harris L. Coulter, PhD

"It is pathetic and ludicrous to say we ever vanquished smallpox with vaccines, when only 10% of the population was ever vaccinated." - Dr. Glen Dettman

"Up to 90% of the total decline in the death rate of children between 1860-1965 because of whooping cough, scarlet fever, diphtheria, and measles occurred before the introduction of immunizations and antibiotics." ---Dr. Archie Kalokerinos, MD

"I think that no person would permit anybody to get close to them with an inoculation if they would really know how they are made, what they carry, what has been lied to them about them and what the real percent of danger is of contracting such a disease which is minimal."---Dr. Eva Snead

"The greatest threat of childhood diseases lies in the dangerous and ineffectual efforts made to prevent them through mass immunization.... There is no convincing scientific evidence that mass inoculations can be credited with eliminating any childhood disease." --Dr. Robert Mendelsohn, MD

"Official data shows that large scale vaccination has failed to obtain any significant improvement of the diseases against which they were supposed to provide protection" - Dr. Sabin, developer of Polio vaccine.

"There is a great deal of evidence to prove that immunization of children does more harm than good." - Dr. J. Anthony Morris (formerly Chief Vaccine Control Officer at the US Federal Drug Admin.) 

"My suspicion, which is shared by others in my profession, is that the nearly 10,000 SIDS deaths that occur in the United States each year are related to one or more of the vaccines that are routinely given children. The pertussis vaccine is the most likely villain, but it could also be one or more of the others." --Dr. Mendelsohn, MD

"The medical authorities keep lying. Vaccination has been a disaster on the immune system. It actually causes a lot of illnesses. We are changing our genetic code through vaccination." --Guylaine Lanctot M.D., author of the best-seller 'Medical Mafia'

" You can't vaccinate believing that your children are protected and then feel that your children are not protected because somehow, some non-vaccinated child is carrying some secret organism that no one else is carrying. It just doesn't make any sense." --Dr. Larry Palevsky, board-certified pediatrician

5 comments on "Pertussis/Whooping Cough"
  1. So, this interested me alot...actually. We haven't had Maia vaccinated since she was about 1 because I had started to read into all the dangers and side affects and after a scary run-in with the hep vacs...(she was vomiting blood and had a fever for 3 days over 103) which the doctor said was "normal" for some babies to react. I nearly lost it and just decided to stop the vaccinations all together. So now my question is, should I have been giving her something else this whole time instead of nothing at all? Like herbs or ...... I don't know :S

    1. Sonya... you are awesome ;) Thanks for commenting and being respectful!! :) :) I am so sorry to hear about Maia's side effects -- that totally does *not* sound normal. How scary!! :/ We don't give our children any herbs as long as they appear healthy. Keeping them well nourished, good or average amounts of Vitamin D and etc, etc I believe is enough. We DO however, stay away from people/kids as much as we can or are able if they have been recently vaccinated because of the fact there is some proof to show that vaccines can 'shed' onto children from those who have recently been vaccinated. But of course, you can't monitor or go crazy over every person that you come into contact with -- so just try your best!! :) It is only if they would start to show symptoms that we would find a natural solution -- and OF COURSE -- our FIRST method of preventing and caring for our children is praying over them for health and protection over these diseases. I fully believe God does NOT want them to be sick, for any reason -- and we should ask Him for that protection for them. Love you!

  2. Rhylee HaagApril 19, 2012

    Thank you for this!!
    With my doctor just recently "recommending" the shot to me at 30 weeks pregnant I was hesitant. After messaging you and getting some of this information I made my decision not to vaccinate at this point in pregnancy, nor after he is born, at least for this specific ailment. I truly appreciate reading opinions as well as your well put together information and websites pertaining information.
    =) Your the best!

  3. I believe it was a sign that I accidently found your blog through youtube. And I'm beyond impressed how you have the courage to talk so openly about this topic. It's brings me to tears. It fills my heart with hope. Thank you. Truly. This is really important to me. And I'm sorry you had to experience displeasent reactions from some of your readers (which is partly the reason to why I didn't post about my point of view which is pretty similar to yours). I also strongly encourage your decision to not do any ultrasounds with this pregnancy. And as I'm currently re-reading a post of yours I discovered your refusal of product with aspartame as an ingredient.

    The reason to why I'm so touched by all your decisions is because during my journey I have discovered that - trying to stick to my opinions and being open about them I have nearly lost some friends because of this. People you thought of as loving and understanding suddenly turn away from you. Even though I told them a million times how much it hurts when they disregard all that suffering I and my family had to go through (when I was 3 yrs old my sister was born. Healthy and all. Six months later the doctors had discovered she was deaf. They claimed she was congenitally deaf. Which my mom and dad refused to believe. I always it must have been heartwrenching to experience your little daughter deaf. All of the sudden (they always told me that the night they found out, they stood beneath her crib, and trying to get her attention by clapping their hands and she just didn't react. Writing this I feel my hands shaking and a huge lump in my throat). Until my parents finally found 3 doctors who told them that it was a vaccination damage. During this journey my mom always strived to educate herself by reading a lot of INDEPENTENT med journals which is also the reason to why we found out about the damaging side effects of micro waves, ultra sounds (you do know that your unborn baby is exposed to an unbearable loud and threatening sharp noise while you have an ultra sound, right?), aspartame and vaccinations.

    Thanks again

  4. AnonymousJuly 30, 2012

    Thank you for sharing... our family also stopped vaccinating our children after the were 1.5 because this is when I started truly investigating what vaccines can do and what they DO NOT do.

    I know what you are referring to with your disclaimer at the top. I had left some information on the site yesterday about pages where you could go and look up information yourself on how to keep your children safe should you choose not to vaccinate and my postings were removed and I was blocked fron commenting. I said nothing directly to the family other than condolences.. I was leaving information for all the others on the page that were freaking out.

    I believe in sharing your story and trying to educate people, but I have to draw a line in the sand when all you are really doing is causing people to panic.

    Thank you agian so much for sharing this information. It is going to help so many families.